Mad Musical Geniuses
Music | By Matthew for the The Top 13 on May 19, 2010
The American entertainer Oscar Levant once said, "There's a fine line between genius and insanity. I have crossed that line." Such has been the case for many artists both before and after his time. History recalls many brilliant musicians - as far back as 18th century-born violinist Niccolo Paganini - who have been famously portrayed as having gone off of the deep end. The modern era of pop and rock music has certainly had its share of mad geniuses as well, and we're ranking them today based on their contribution to music as well as the degree of their psychosis. Here are the Top 13 singers, songwriters, producers, and musicians who marched to the beat of a different drummer.
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Brian WilsonThe Beach Boys |
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Syd BarrettPink Floyd |
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Daniel Johnston |
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Roky Erickson13th Floor Elevators |
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Sly StoneSly & the Family Stone |
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James Brown |
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Phil Spector |
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Peter GreenFleetwood Mac |
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Anton NewcombeThe Brian Jonestown Massacre |
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Ike TurnerIke & Tina Turner Revue |
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Gary Wilson |
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Wesley WillisThe Wesley Willis Fiasco |
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Jeff MangumNeutral Milk Hotel |
stillathreat ★★
The introduction says they ranked it based on a combination of just how much of a genius the guy was and just how crazy he was. So Willis might not be nearly as much of a musical genius, but might be much crazier...I think that's how it works.
9:39 AM May 19, 2010
jason ★★
Nobody really knows if Mangum is crazy or just has some anxiety issues or whatever. Wesley Willis, on the other hand, was certifiably crazy. I think that's why he's above Mangum. But point taken, this isn't exact science.
10:58 AM May 19, 2010
ajay ★★
Nothing we know about Mangum actually suggests that he's crazy. Not wanting to be in the limelight is incredibly normal, while being able to enjoy celebrity status is kinda messed up.
On a different note, there's a movie based on Daniel Johnston in development, with Philip Seymour Hoffman and John C. Reilly in talks to play the role. Either way, it should be awesome.
11:10 AM May 19, 2010
tloveisready ★★
Ugh, Johnston is the worst.
11:20 AM May 19, 2010
TheRastRaff
How is Johnston "the worst"? Have you ever listened to "Story of an Artist", "Walking the Cow" or "The Sun Shines Down on Me"? The guy wrote great songs. And I agree with those saying Mangum isn't necessarily crazy. As for Wesley Willis - isn't calling somebody genius (or even talented) pretty subjective?
3:40 PM May 19, 2010
tloveisready ★★
I agree also that there is no evidence suggesting Mangum is "mad." And I guess you make a good point in that last sentence as well. One man's trash is another man's treasure. For the record, I have listened to at least 2 out of the 3 songs you listed and I watched the Johnston doc. I've never been impressed by anything he's done, and I'm constantly confounded that he's received as much attention as he has. I always chalk it up to the Cobain factor though because if the guy wasn't nuts and Kurt had never called attention to him, then I'm pretty certain we wouldn't be having this discussion right now because he's definitely not a musical genius in the very least sense of the term.
7:26 AM May 20, 2010
kralenpregn7
See, the thing is, there is a difference between the consensus of a song listener, and
the consensus of a song writer, (usually)
Daniel Johnston is regarded by many song Writers, as being a musical genius. Because song
Writers know what the term implies.
20 people can take the same set of lyrics, and the same set of chords, and the result
will be very different in each case.
Daniel Johnston has an ability that is considered "genius" amongst songwriters, because
of this very issue. I'm searching for the best way to say this, but, Daniel is definitely
a musical genius, because of the way his brain comprehends, Timing; and also because of
the way his brain can do two things at once, and also because of the way his brain is
able to Focus on the value of lyric, and is able to spit something out that is of an
original nature; be it because of the actual originality of the subject matter, or be it
because of the "word twist" he utilizes.
You may not like some of the songs you have heard by Daniel Johnston. Maybe you Googled
his name, in which, you may not hear a clear example of what I'm talking about,
(according to Me)
In the beginning, I heard many songs by him that I didn't really like. (Kind of like
Dylan. He's got HUNDREDS of songs.) You may not like all of them.
Some of them may turn you off.
Me personally, I wouldn't have chosen those songs for a "New Listener"
They are fine songs,
If I was to list 10 songs for an introduction to Daniel Johnston, they would be:
-More Dead Than Alive, from More Songs of Pain.
-POW, from More Songs Of Pain.
-Like A Monkey In A Zoo, from Songs Of Pain.
-History Of Our Love, from Lost And Found.
-High Horse, from Is And Alway Was.
-Haunt, from Lost And Found.
-Grievances, from Songs Of Pain.
-Happy Soul, from Artistic Vice.
-Everlasting Love, from Lost And Found.
-An Idiots End, from More Songs Of Pain.
-Mountain Top, from Fear Yourself.
Now those are the first, well, eleven songs from my list of 170 Favorite Top Ten Daniel
Johnston Tunes.
So if you don't like any of those songs, then there's really nothing for me to convince
you of.
3:33 PM May 23, 2010
bdouble ★
Is this only of a certain era? Because they left of quite a few mad men. First one that comes to mind is Jim Morrison he was bat s*** crazy on and off stage, but the music that came through was pure genius. Elvis Presley is another. Sid Visious, Kurt Cobain, Gene Simmons, Jerry Garcia, The man in black, Johnny Cash, a true outlaw, and i guess i'll stop with John Lennon.
3:25 PM Jan 04, 2012
bdouble ★
Kralen7 if your gonna go that deep you might as well go back to Motzart, or Bach and Beatoven, their genius is that specific and remains unmatched as far as really using there brains to translate music. I mean can you name any others whom u can listen to and if u truly listen the music, the instrument there playing, and the song w/o having lyrics. You can hear the chords put together in a way that you can hear the words come through their piano or symphany. truely remarkable.
3:36 PM Jan 04, 2012
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tloveisready ★★
The difference in the definition of the term "musical genius" from your #1 to your #3 is VAST. Were Wilson and Johnston both nutso? Yes, but clearly only one of them is actually a musical genius. This list hits a lot of high notes, but it's also totally off the mark in several places (hearing wesley willis sing Osama Bin Laden and then Mangum sing ITAOTS highlights this vast and unforgivable disparity).
9:06 AM May 19, 2010